Wednesday, May 17, 2006

Deporting Immigrants: The Wisdom of Men vs The Wisdom of the Lord

Vox Day, a very polemic blogger and writer for the World Net Daily has suggested we look at the effeciency in the German removal of Jews from German society as an example that such removal actually can work for the 12 to 20 million "illegal" immigrants to the United States. He states:

And he will be lying, again, just as he lied when he said: "Massive deportation of the people here is unrealistic – it's just not going to work." Not only will it work, but one can easily estimate how long it would take. If it took the Germans less than four years to rid themselves of 6 million Jews, many of whom spoke German and were fully integrated into German society, it couldn't possibly take more than eight years to deport 12 million illegal aliens, many of whom don't speak English and are not integrated into American society.
While he may be a member of Mensa (so was Tarek on the Apprentice, but that apparently really didn't help him in practical matters), he apparently didn't think more clearly about why the Germans were effective at removing the Jews. I've read his blog (which I won't link to here---full of hate and vitriol that is undeserving of advertisement), and seen the responses he has given those who have criticized him. He berates those who can't see his view (typical of those who think they are smarter than the other 98%), yet he doesn't seem to realize that the reason Germans were so effective in removing Jews from Germany is because the Germans used killings and murder to instigate enough fear in the Jews that the Jews would be willing to move. The question Mr. Day does not ask is this: were the Jews willing to move? Did the Jews want to give up their possessions and lands to the Germans who showed clear hatred of them? What would happen today if the Germans attempted again to remove Jews from Germany today? What did Germans have then that Jews did not have? How many guns did Jews have? What kind of political protection did Jews have? Would Americans be willing to go that kind of distance to remove "illegal" immigrants from America today? Would "illegal" immigrants be as willing, or as submissive as the Jews were in Germany to move? Most likely not. No offense meant to the Jews of the time, but they didn't have much choice as there was no recourse, no method for them to stand up for themselves at that time. Today is a vastly different world. What Mr. Day (and others like him) propone is impossible unless you are willing to get into killing people. And well, the moment someone dies, is the moment you lost. Yes, on the front of what Mr. Day says, it is possible to move several million people from one location to another. But realistically speaking, Mr. Day is only proving that Mensa is losing more and more credibility as to having the best and the brightest. It is frankly speaking pretty dumb to make such a comparison (the disturbing aspects of thinking there is something positive to learn from the deportation of Jews from Germany aside), because it does not look at all the facts and ignores glaring points that undermine the point. Germans succeeded in removing Jews from proper Germany and into concentration camps because Germans killed Jews who did not go. The fear amongst Jews was palpable. If they did not go, they would certainly die. Now, compare what Mr. Day and his friends at the World Net Daily believe with what a Prophet of the Lord has said:
Throughout my service as a member of the First Presidency, I have recognized and spoken a number of times on the diversity we see in our society. It is all about us, and we must make an effort to accommodate that diversity. Let us all recognize that each of us is a son or daughter of our Father in Heaven, who loves all of His children. Brethren, there is no basis for racial hatred among the priesthood of this Church. If any within the sound of my voice is inclined to indulge in this, then let him go before the Lord and ask for forgiveness and be no more involved in such.
The conflict with immigration today is not about "illegals" but about whites being afraid of "espanol" of the culture of Mexicans creeping into American culture and turning it from a white-ruled control into a mixture of white and Mexican. All the major immigration conflicts of the past in American history have dealth with the mixture of culture, and not whether they came legally or illegally. Before 1918, there was no "illegal" immigrant, but there were many conflicts. They arose out of fear of mixing cultures and from nothing else. America has not learned from history, and a "Mensa" member apparently has not learned either. Such a shame. But then again:
O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish.


At 5/17/2006 10:33:00 AM, Blogger Trude said...

Hey Dan,

I can't wait until the day that man lives without borders. When man really is free and equal and peaceful. At the moment though the world is full of scarey people, with very scarey ideas on what they like to claim are their 'individual rights' ..

At 5/17/2006 11:10:00 AM, Blogger nicolaepadigone said...

I agree Trude. well we know it will get worse before it gets better. I don't want to know how much worse it can actually get, but right now, the amount of hatred in this world is pretty disturbing.

At 5/20/2006 06:49:00 AM, Blogger Trude said...

I don't know if it's hate or just fear .. fear of others who are different .. ??

At 5/20/2006 08:00:00 AM, Blogger nicolaepadigone said...

the World Net Daily edited his article, by the way. They removed the reference to the Nazis. Maybe things are heading in the right direction. :)


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